Summary
- Disgraced former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire is facing a third day of questioning at the ICAC inquiry into his possible misuse of his position for financial gain from 10am, after a transcript of his private evidence was inadvertently uploaded to the corruption watchdog's website late yesterday.
- Mr Maguire yesterday admitted letting a property developer friend, Jo Alha, "drop in" to Premier Gladys Berejiklian's office in NSW Parliament after the two men were drinking in his office.
- Yesterday's questioning at the inquiry also turned to Mr Maguire's former relationship with Ms Berejiklian.
- The ICAC also heard a tapped phone call in which Mr Maguire advised his friend Mr Alha to write to the then-planning minister, Anthony Roberts, about his grievances and "cc [copy] the Premier", adding that he "will give it to her".
- Mr Maguire also admitted that he believed at one stage he could make "up to" $1.5 million from helping racing heir and landowner Louise Raedler Waterhouse sell a parcel of land at Badgerys Creek near the planned second Sydney airport.
Watch live: ICAC grills Daryl Maguire
Disgraced former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire is being grilled for a third day at the ICAC about his business dealings while in office and his former relationship with Premier Gladys Berejiklian. You can watch it live here.
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Maguire responds to 'this stuff is ICAC-able' comment
The ICAC has heard a tapped phone call from 2017 in which former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire gives Premier Gladys Berejiklian's private email address to racing heir and landowner Louise Raedler Waterhouse.
After first telling Ms Waterhouse she could "blame him" for using the Premier's direct email, he said, "the fact is all that stuff is ICAC-able". Ms Waterhouse responded that she didn't want it to form part of any "freedom of information" requests.
Mr Maguire told the ICAC today "wasn't concerned"at this time that it was improper for him to assist Ms Waterhouse with property and planning issues relating to a parcel of land she owned at Badgerys Creek, although at this point he had the "hope" of receiving profits himself.
He agreed it was improper for him to pass on the premier's personal email address.
In a subsequent call, Mr Maguire asks Ms Berejiklian if she received an email from Ms Waterhouse and the premier said no. After a short time, Ms Berejiklian said she had to get off the phone. It is fair to say that in this call the premier sounded completely uninterested and distracted as Mr Maguire spoke of Ms Raedler's concerns.
'It has not been pleasant,' Premier says of leaks
By Nick Ralston
Premier Gladys Berejiklian said she had received an apology from the ICAC over it inadvertently publishing a transcript of sensitive information about her relationship with former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire that was heard in a private hearing with him on Thursday afternoon.
"Suffice to say it has not been pleasant; unfortunately it didn't happen once, but twice. I've accepted their apologies," she said.
Premier Gladys Berejiklian speaks at a press conference on Friday.Credit:Nick Moir
The transcript remained on the ICAC's website for about half an hour on Thursday. The ICAC is now conducting an internal investigation into the incident and has also referred the matter to the independent ICAC Inspector, Sydney barrister Bruce McClintock, SC.
Asked what would it take for her to resign as premier, Ms Berejiklian said: "When I have done something wrong."
She said she did not believe there would be a cloud over her leadership until the ICAC makes its findings, saying she was only there was a witness and that she has not been accused of any wrongdoing.
Premier fends off questions about ICAC evidence
By Nick Ralston
Premier Gladys Berejiklian has again reiterated that she has "done nothing wrong" and asked people to respect the ICAC investigation process.
After giving a COVID-19 update to the media, Ms Berejiklian has been asked again about the September 2017 phone call she had with then Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire in which she said "I don't need to know about that bit" in response to Mr Maguire speaking about a potential Badgerys Creek business deal.
Mr Maguire has agreed at the ICAC this morning that there was some information that the premier did not want to be told about his business deals.
Ms Berejiklian has fended off the questions saying she has addressed this issue during six hours of public evidence at the ICAC on Monday.
"I spent six hours being very open and transparent, and I refer you to those comments," she said. " I have been absolutely cooperative with ICAC from the outset."
ICAC takes short break
Morning tea time at the ICAC. We're back in 15 minutes.
Watch: Premier gives COVID-19 update
By Ben Grubb
Premier Gladys Berejiklian provided a COVID-19 update just after 11am AEDT. We expect she'll be asked about this morning's evidence at the ICAC. You can watch live below:
Maguire tried to avoid 'fixing Berejiklian with knowledge'
Disgraced former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire is asked where there was a line at which he sought not to "fix" Premier Gladys Berejiklian with "knowledge" of his business dealings as they discussed his activities.
"I think that's correct," Mr Maguire says.
Maguire agrees Berejiklian 'didn't want to know'
The ICAC has taken a keen interest in a phone call between disgraced former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire and Premier Gladys Berejiklian in September 2017, in which Ms Berejiklian said "I don't need to know about that bit" in response to Mr Maguire speaking about a potential Badgerys Creek business deal.
Asked by counsel assisting the ICAC, Scott Robertson, if there was a point at which he stopped giving Ms Berejiklian details that might cause her to stake steps in relation to a matter, Mr Maguire said he "limited the information I gave her" if he thought it would "cause her difficulties".
"Was it also the case that as you understood it, either from this call or from any other communication you had with Ms Berejiklian, that there were particular bits of information that she didn't want to know about your activities?" Mr Robertson asked.
"Well, yes," Mr Maguire said.
Asked if he was concerned that if he shared more information Ms Berejiklian might need to take action in the exercise of her public functions, Mr Maguire said he would have been concerned "it would cause an issue for her".
Mr Maguire later explained to Assistant Commissioner Ruth McColl that he meant "conflict of interest and all of that kind of stuff".
Asked by Mr Robertson if there was a "line at which you wouldn't fix her with knowledge", Mr Maguire said: "I think that's correct."
Asked where the line was drawn at least in his own mind, Mr Maguire said it was "general discussion and general overview and that was about it". However, Mr Maguire has accepted he told Ms Berejiklian he had debts of about $1.5 million, and he also gave her some information about the potential Badgerys Creek deal.
He agreed with the Assistant Commissioner that the government was regularly making decisions around land at Badgerys Creek, the site of Sydney's second airport.
"That would be an obvious conflict of interest?" Ms McColl said.
"Yes," Mr Maguire replied.
Premier's barrister takes aim at ICAC
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian's barrister, Arthur Moses, SC, has told the corruption watchdog that it should not be a "forum for a person's reputation to be the subject of question marks" without a proper basis.
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian's barrister, Arthur Moses, SC, outside the ICAC on Friday.Credit:Rhett Wyman
The ICAC's Assistant Commissioner, Ruth McColl, describes Mr Moses' submission as "extremely elliptical" and says "I don't think it requires a response at this stage".
Leak compromised Premier's privacy and security, ICAC told
The ICAC's Assistant Commissioner, Ruth McColl, has apologised to Premier Gladys Berejiklian and former Wagga Wagga MP Daryl Maguire after the corruption watchdog inadvertently published a transcript of Mr Maguire's evidence given in private on Thursday.
The evidence concerned the nature and extent of the five-year private relationship between Ms Berejiklian and Mr Maguire, which ended in about September this year. Sydney barrister Arthur Moses, SC, acting for Ms Berejiklian said the publication of the material amounted to a "violation of my client's privacy and her security".
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Thursday.Credit:Dominic Lorrimer
The Assistant Commissioner said the ICAC would hold an internal investigation into the circumstances surrounding the publication of the transcript and had also referred the matter to the independent ICAC Inspector, Sydney barrister Bruce McClintock, SC.
Mr McClintock told the Herald on Friday morning that he had received a complaint from the Premier's legal representatives and he would consider that complaint.
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